In this conversation, Smith Mordak, Chief Executive of the UK Green Building Council, discusses the critical period the industry is facing and how to handle the pressure. They also touch on the role of politics in the real estate sector and the engagement between industry and government. The conversation then shifts to the future of green buildings and decarbonization, as well as the concept of systems change and overcoming barriers. Finally, they explore what it means to be a game changer in the industry.

Takeaways:
- The industry is currently in a critical period, and it is important to focus on the present and the urgent and important issues at hand.
- Engagement between industry and government is crucial for driving change and creating a sustainable built environment.
- Systems change is necessary to overcome systemic barriers and enable the adoption of sustainable practices.
- Being a game changer means challenging the status quo, changing the rules of the game, and working together to create positive change.

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