In this interview, Juliette Morgan, ESG Consultancy Director and Global Lead at Design Practice Gensler, discusses the growing awareness of environmental, social, and governance (ESG) issues in the real estate sector. She emphasizes the need to move beyond sustainability as a concept and explore new ways of balancing human desires with environmental impact. Juliette also discusses the importance of both mitigation and adaptation in addressing climate change and highlights London's role as a leader in climate action. She concludes by emphasizing the importance of taking the long view when it comes to sustainability.

Takeaways:
- There is a growing awareness of ESG issues in the real estate sector, with discussions around regenerative design and the need for balance.
- Sustainability as a concept needs to be rethought, and new aspirations and goals should be explored.
- Both mitigation and adaptation are necessary in addressing climate change, and a combination of natural processes and technology can help achieve sustainability goals.
- London plays a significant role in climate action, particularly in terms of climate disclosure requirements and the regeneration of buildings.
- Technology, including AI and data modeling, can play a crucial role in making better environmental decisions and achieving sustainability goals.
- Taking the long view is essential when it comes to sustainability, considering the long-term impacts and consequences of our actions.

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